Scientology And Other Matters

Tim Stanley from the Telegraph makes an interesting case about the cult-like behaviour of a seemingly substantial number of UKIP members. He doesn’t say the words “cult-like” of course but that’s what it is – that some in the party and/or UKIP voters are unable to cope with any criticism no matter how slight or well-intentioned it is:

The trouble is, [UKIP] needs more than just leaders. Slowly, it draws to itself activists who are essentially refugees from mainstream politics. Most of them are reasonable people. Many are not. For example, when Mr Farage made the humane case for accepting refugees from Syria, the Ukip Facebook page came alight with angry commentary. “Have you been smoking crack with Toronto’s mayor?” asked one. Another: “Sorry nigel dont agree. This country is full now but with more scum headed our way in a few days.” And another: “keep out of UK its full up ENGLISH are the ethnic minority now.” Someone even asked whether Nigel was being bankrolled by “the Muslims”.

I’ve experienced this unpleasantness at first hand. I have been making a series of tongue-in-cheek online videos for the Telegraph that offer “five top tips” for the party leaders on how not to mess things up in 2014. The one I filmed for Ukip was intended to be as light-hearted as Mr Farage himself: keep Godfrey Bloom under lock and key, avoid Scotland, read your own manifesto. The emails and thousands of comments that followed contained personal vitriol of the sort you rarely get from any other party supporter — and that would probably horrify reasonable Ukip sympathisers. Common themes were my ugliness, youth, class and sexuality. [We moderate comments, but you’ll find plenty of belters on YouTube].

…why should any reporter write nicely about a party whose supporters throw homophobic insults at them? Especially when “Ukippers” effectively write their own negative headlines. It wasn’t journalists who made Godfrey Bloom refer to women as “sluts”. It wasn’t the media that made Lord Pearson forget the contents of Ukip’s own manifesto. And it is far too easy to find one of the party’s activists willing to say something derogatory about a minority.

Given that UKIP is a threat to the established order, and that the media in general see UKIP as a problem to be eradicated, it is tempting to dismiss Tim Stanley’s comments as part of an establishment which aim to belittle the party. Yet looking through the comments below Tim’s piece they largely make the point for him. They illustrate quite clearly that anything mildly critical is tantamount to heresy.

Sadly this is also personal experience, and experience of fellow bloggers, which suggest that Tim’s comments are uncomfortably accurate.

For example to merely venture on this blog the (not unreasonable) point that UKIP has failed in the 20 years of its existence to offer a coherent exit plan brings out rapid condemnation, despite the obvious fact UKIP has many well paid MEPs yet there is no real policy on the matter. This is a point that has been made elsewhere

Revealingly only by the phenomenal hard work of Richard North (unpaid) has there been an attempt to answer the longstanding question about Brexit and how it can be done. And he has done it by putting forward a very coherent and detailed argument in terms of the “Norway” option which has been shortlisted for the IEA Brexit prize. To point out the lack of such a policy where UKIP is concerned though is heresy.

Autonomous Mind has had similiar problems when he makes the following justifiable points:

For as long as I choose to blog (which may not be much longer given the way I am feeling), shutting up about it isn’t an option for the simple reason that, rightly or wrongly, Farage is seen by many as the head of the Eurosceptic movement by virtue of his position as UKIP leader.  If he fails, the Eurosceptic cause will fail.  Hoping no one will notice the failings by keeping quiet about them is not the way to get the problems addressed.  In speaking out I am not trying to ‘do down’ or undermine UKIP.  I am trying to draw attention to what needs to be improved in the hope more people will apply pressure for change.

And Witterings From Witney too:

To turn to the Guardian article, this is a damning view of Nigel Farage, albeit one that is undoubtedly a dish of revenge served cold. If Farage is someone who does not do policy and is not interested in running his party, why on earth would any sane person elect him to run the country? With regard to Bloom’s assertion that the party is without brains, that has become apparent when one considers the number of open goals that have been missed.

I am often taken to task by commenters on this blog for my condemnation of Ukip – aka Farage – and admonished for criticising the ‘only alternative’, come the next General Election. To which I can only reply with one question:

Just why would anyone vote for another political party headed by yet another politician who, it seems, does not do detail or policy; who would appear to care not one jot for his country or those to whom he appeals for support, but would appear to be interested in only one thing, namely – and would seem not to care by which avenue that he achieves it – power?

But it was just as badly “fixed” in 2004 and then again in 2009, when Nattrass was a beneficiary of the system that made him an MEP. Only now, though, when he has fallen out with The Great Leader, and become a victim of a rigged system that also brought in Farage’s drinking mate, Godfrey Bloom, does Nattrass go public and complain.

This desperately weakens the power of Nattrass’s complaint, and the UKIP cult members have been quick to point this out. But this is the standard fare of the cult, which specialises in blackening the names of detractors. They will do anything but concede the truth and admit that, even though Nattrass is not the most sympathetic of characters, he is not necessarily wrong.

In fact, we don’t really need to rehearse the issues, once more. Most recently, it was Will Gilpin and before him many more, all saying roughly the same thing. Again and again, we see the same charge: Nigel Farage “only wants people in the party who agree with him”. More particularly, he surrounds himself with sycophants and, from Sked onward, levers out those who present a challenge to him.

That is probably the way it is going to be for as long as Farage has a grip on the reins of power within the tiny pond that is UKIP, but it also typifies small party politics, which get caught up in the grip of a single individual – as with the BNP and Nick Griffin. The test will be whether UKIP can survive the demise of Farage, and rebuild itself without falling prey to the cult of The Great Leader.

And we come back to Tim Stanley who believes the party needs a “chill pill” (an ungainly phrase):

Believe it or not, Ukip needs to lighten up

It’s not a “chill pill” UKIP needs, instead it’s grown up policies, detail, strategy and above all maturity – the recognition that politics is a very rough game where criticism comes with the territory, and not all of it is unfriendly or malicious. However in the absence of this we see a cult in the form of Nigel Farage’s UKIP, not too disimilar to the ‘cult’ of some in the media who have a “love affair” with Cameron:

In a very unhealthy way, party politics in the UK is beginning to develop a feel not dissimilar to that of North Korea where, amongst the faithful, only expressions of the most abject adoration are permitted.

Sadly, though, with the cult of the leader also comes the cult of the follower. The lumpen masses, mindless and inert, demand leadership before they can begin to exert themselves. Gone is the initiative, independence and assertiveness that once made our nation great. We whinge and whine that we have no leaders, and then demand absolute fealty to our anointed ones, whom we are expected to follow over the edge of a cliff if demanded.

Thus those not in awe of the “Great Leader” become a ‘Suppressive Person‘. This is no way to exit the EU.

60 thoughts on “Scientology And Other Matters

  1. TBF – “Look at the leader…there's a pattern of a complete lack of detail going back years. The only person undermining the project is a leader who refuses to do detail and gets caught out time and time again…”

    You don’t get my point. When working to build momentum, ‘detail' is as much an obstacle as FUD is. Both have the same highly destructive capacity to derail the identification and validation of a need. Without the need, ‘detail' is just so much meaningless w*nk – destined for the Kleenex of history. Once need is established – at a tipping point – ‘detail’ is called upon as the required route-map to the need being met. Then, we might debate which details are the most appropriate.

    Not even to staunchest Europhile would deny that leaving the EU is not only possible, but technically easy. That it may be time consuming and require elaborate knowledge, no one contests! So insisting upon ‘detail’ is seeking to win an argument that doesn’t even exist! It is a distraction, an indulgence, the brooding industry of someone who has made himself peripheral to the real debate.

    Mr Farage might not “do detail” for the blindingly obvious reason that, without first establishing a need – the details of getting it met are a complete and utter waste of time and money.

  2. TBF – “Look at the leader…there's a pattern of a complete lack of detail going back years. The only person undermining the project is a leader who refuses to do detail and gets caught out time and time again…”

    You don’t get my point. When working to build momentum, ‘detail' is as much an obstacle as FUD is. Both have the same highly destructive capacity to derail the identification and validation of a need. Without the need, ‘detail' is just so much meaningless w*nk – destined for the Kleenex of history. Once need is established – at a tipping point – ‘detail’ is called upon as the required route-map to the need being met. Then, we might debate which details are the most appropriate.

    Not even to staunchest Europhile would deny that leaving the EU is not only possible, but technically easy. That it may be time consuming and require elaborate knowledge, no one contests! So insisting upon ‘detail’ is seeking to win an argument that doesn’t even exist! It is a distraction, an indulgence, the brooding industry of someone who has made himself peripheral to the real debate.

    Mr Farage might not “do detail” for the blindingly obvious reason that, without first establishing a need – the details of getting it met are a complete and utter waste of time and money.

  3. Alex Salmond hasn't done detail either and he is going to lose as a result.

    Funnily enough people do like detail or at least the assurance that UKIP have a detailed exit plan…if only to reassure them about trade, about jobs, about all the problems an exit might pose.

    Not doing detail, not having proper costed detailed policies and trying to wing it as a result are the actions of amateurs. Is it any wonder Farage keeps being caught out?

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/455836/I-didn-t-read-it-It-was-drivel-Nigel-Farage-s-damning-verdict-on-Ukip-s-2010-manifesto

  4. Alex Salmond hasn't done detail either and he is going to lose as a result.

    Funnily enough people do like detail or at least the assurance that UKIP have a detailed exit plan…if only to reassure them about trade, about jobs, about all the problems an exit might pose.

    Not doing detail, not having proper costed detailed policies and trying to wing it as a result are the actions of amateurs. Is it any wonder Farage keeps being caught out?

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/455836/I-didn-t-read-it-It-was-drivel-Nigel-Farage-s-damning-verdict-on-Ukip-s-2010-manifesto

  5. How idiotic to judge UKIP from some facebook profiles that you assume to be UKIP members, 25% of the UKIP facebook page happened to be from Brussels the last time i checked, and then no doubt at least another 25% are random trolls.

  6. How idiotic to judge UKIP from some facebook profiles that you assume to be UKIP members, 25% of the UKIP facebook page happened to be from Brussels the last time i checked, and then no doubt at least another 25% are random trolls.

  7. The question is: Does the detail cause the need, or does the need cause the detail?

    Your view appears akin to an assertion that you have written me a recipe, therefore I AM hungry.

    The reality, of course, is that hunger causes recipes – as descriptions of a means to its end.

    Farage “being caught out” is a telling example… The UKIP leader disowned the party manifesto because it contained far too much detail… about policies for which their was virtually zero public appetite (ring any bells?). That was where the absurdity was exposed – not in Farage's steps to rectify the situation.

  8. The question is: Does the detail cause the need, or does the need cause the detail?

    Your view appears akin to an assertion that you have written me a recipe, therefore I AM hungry.

    The reality, of course, is that hunger causes recipes – as descriptions of a means to its end.

    Farage “being caught out” is a telling example… The UKIP leader disowned the party manifesto because it contained far too much detail… about policies for which their was virtually zero public appetite (ring any bells?). That was where the absurdity was exposed – not in Farage's steps to rectify the situation.

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